My Testimony

My Name is the Lord Ben Chung, and I am an ex-Prairie, ex-evangelical. I have never been happier in my life. I went through a period of time when I could have died for god, and given up every possible earthly comfort, and I would devote my life to the spread of this ‘gospel.’ I studied the bible and held it on the pedestal. I trust it completely with my life. It is the complete trustworthy manual god has written for human beings.

Then the day would come when I discover the hate, the bloody god in the bible. I saw things no one told me about for the first time. When I used to read them with blinders on, it was OK that Jewish slaughter of the Canaanites by the command of god, it was OK to dash their babies on the rocks, to cut their throat for god, stone them and to make sure everyone obeys god. There are many things about the bible I am ashamed that I actually supported, slavery, hate, genocides, repression of races, and most of all, I see contradictions in every page.

I see the denial in Prairians, and their colleagues. I see their desperate attempt to save their religion and their sanity and try to live in the world that no longer believe in this backward and out dated cosmology. Why their god failed to come and save them. Here is the challenge, perhaps Mark Maxwell, Bruce Miller, or Dew, or these sexual abused victims. If your god is so true and this is the only way you can come clean and be saved, why is he all absent? I cannot give an honest intellectual answer. This is why I no longer believe in your god, and if you still do, cry louder, lash your back and make efforts to connect with your god, who is not there. My challenge is to come out of this web of deception, and live as a true human, for this is the only higher calling you have, and leave god behind in the dust. If he is so real, let him come find you, apologize for all the atrocities you have to endured, and stop brainwashing others that he is there. He is not. I said it, he is not there, and it is silent. Live your own life free from fear and repression, take the first journey to be away from a god of hate, and be happy. Most of all, be a human being and proud of it~!

不要對教徒心存偏激

主題： 不要對教徒心存偏激	日期： 2012-05-03
作者： emile01	來源： 本網見證
我是在2007年離開基督教的，早幾天才經朋友知道這個網站的存在…… 比較孤陋寡聞吧。 拜讀過在這裡很多很多篇的出教分享帖，雖發覺有部分帖存在著很重怨氣，但我仍感受良多，不期然再反思自己出教的往事和心路歷程。 就離教之前，因為生活上繼續過得不愉快，和見到某些所謂教徒，只會接納對自己有利的聖經教化，重新思考了很久。 或者有教徒又會覺得，我又是因為人的因素，而放棄了他們的神。但，我卻不認為如此。 當我開始有懷疑，當我明白、發覺自己開始失去信心時，我真的用了很長時間去讀經，請教導師和牧師，曾多番祈禱，多次跪地禱告，多次求和神去聯繫，多次為自己的軟弱而流淚……很久很久…… 最後甚麼回應也沒有！ 那時，幾經掙扎後，結論想法：可能甚麼也沒有，或，如果有神，而這個神是這麼對待世人，那麼我寧願成為魔，然後用我作為魔的方法，去幫助其他人。 當時還以一流行曲的其中幾句為座右銘：神，你不喜歡我，逼我入了魔…… 是很偏激吧……那時天主教和基督教對我來說，的確是負面的。 到再之後半年左右，看了一部電影，男主角於片中結尾部分講了一句，類似：就算耶穌不是聖人，但世人需要他存在…… 再反思…… 真的，世上有人需要耶穌的存在，天父／天主的存在，或者應該說，世人需要宗教的存在。 就算我知道其實甚麼都沒有，又何苦道破，又何必攻擊那些有需要的人…… 慢慢，我對天主／基督教、教徒們的負面情緒沒有了…… 我想那些在這裡分享過的師兄、姐們，試著反思多點，到底自己是否只係因為人的因素而唔再信，定或發覺真的甚麼也沒有才不再信，免得給教徒們解畫的話柄吧。 我亦希望大家不要對他們心存偏激，當然行為不檢者除外，不竟人總有軟弱時，宗教確是一種好好的舒解方法。 http://networkedblogs.com/xbvmM

Gospel of Hammers

The gospel according to Warpington:

Bene D asks the Master Warpington, “How is it that some have a hammer, and others are nails. How do nails enter into the Kingdom of Heavens?”

The Master Warpington answers, “My son, some are nails because of the kingdom, and others became hammers because they chose to. If they do not all turn into hammers at once, then those who were nailed 40 years ago were nailed in vain.”

Bene D looked visibly puzzled, and became agitated, so he asks once more, “But Master, the hammers are all full of love, why would they nailed others to the cross?”

Looking serene, the Master Warpington answers, “My son, it is all for the glory of God, it is all for the gory of God! Some will enter the kingdom by submission as if nailed, and others will do so by force. If a man does not get nailed, and a woman not clubbed, then the sun will turn into the moon and the child within you shall die. For the Kingdom is a mystery to those who seek justice.”

Bene D looked visibly sad, and he drooped his shoulders and walked away. For he too, has been nailed for the answers that Master Warpington has given him. For it is with those who seek the Kingdom. It is now within the nails, Amen.

The Gospel of Bene Diction Blogs ON

So Bene Diction asked Miriam Mollering, “Are you the Chief Spokesperson for Prairie's abused?”

“You have said so,” Mollering replied.

4 Then Bene Diction announced to Brother John Kepler from the Healing Team, Brother Warpington and the crowd, “I find no basis for a charge against this woman.”

5 But they insisted, “She stirs up the people all over PBI by her teaching. She started in Calgary and has come all the way here.”

6 On hearing this, Bene D asked if the woman was a woman under the spells at the Healing Team. 7 When he learned that Miriam was under PBI's discrete control, he sent her to the Crites who was also online at that time.

8 When The Head Team person-in-charge, John Kepler and Crites saw Mollering, they were greatly pleased, because for a long time they had been wanting to see her. From what they had heard about her, Crites hoped to see her perform a miracle. 9 He plied her with many questions, but Mollering gave him no answer. 10 The chief from North Carolina, head pastor Gred Gropples of the Foliage Idiots, and many Prairie unconcerned alumni were standing there, vehemently accusing her. 11 Then Crites and his soldiers ridiculed and mocked her. Dressing her in a red dress, they sent her back to Bene Diction. 12 That day Bene D and Brother John Kepler became enemies—before this they had been friends.

13 Brother Bene Diction called together the Healing Team members, PBI Alumni and her administrators, 14 and said to them, “You brought me this woman as one who was inciting the sexually abused to rebellion. I have examined her in your presence and have found no basis for your charges against her. 15 Neither has Linda and Bene D, for they sent her back to us; as you can see, she has done nothing to deserve death. 16 Therefore, I will punish her and then release her.” [17] [a]

18 But the whole Alumni shouted, “Away with this woman! Release Sheila to us!” 19 (Sheila had been thrown into prison for bullying in the school, and for character murder.)

20 Wanting to release Mollering, Bene Diction appealed to them again. 21 But they kept shouting, “Crucify her Crucify her!”

22 For the third time he spoke to them: “Why? What crime has this woman committed? I have found in her no grounds for the death penalty. Therefore I will have her punished and then release her.”

23 But with loud shouts they insistently demanded that she be crucified, and their shouts prevailed. 24 So Brother Bene decided to grant their demand. 25 He released Sheila who had been thrown into prison for bullying and character assassination the one they asked for, and surrendered Mollering to their will.”

Mars Hill Church

"What started with a beautiful beginning - three families sent from Antioch Bible Church in
Kirkland to plant a “daughter church” in Seattle that would be authentic and relevant to reach the
lost - has turned into the personal ministry of one very ambitious man. Although it is still called a
church, I think a more honest and accurate name might be “Mark Driscoll Ministries,” not unlike
the name for Billy Graham’s organization, a man who Mark has said he greatly admires. I think
what we are seeing demonstrates a confused ecclesiology and I fear this is also being taught to
many other young church planters through the Acts 29 Network who want to “have” a church
just like Mark’s.
The amalgamation of church and personal ministry did not happen overnight. The church began
committed to certain distinctives, like biblical eldership, and core values like “meaning, truth,
beauty and community” and then one driven, talented individual eventually monopolized power,
pushed all dissenters away, and turned the church into a “City within a City” where he functions
like a king because he believes this is the best way to “grow the numbers.” And in this case,
Mark has proven that to be true, drawing in thousands with his entertaining (and regrettably often
crass and inappropriate) speaking. I realize that many believe this is great and see no problem
with it. But I would never have agreed to this if it had been openly stated - and I believe many
others would have felt the same. I believe this was spiritually abusive toward all the members of
the church at that time. And, apparently, a thousand or so members had problems with it as well
and chose not to renew their membership in 2008 after the leadership cancelled everyone’s
membership and asked them to reinstate as members under the new bylaws'


http://joyfulexiles.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/jonna-mhc-story-29.pdf

Collected Thoughts on the Bible

It seems to me that a collection of books and records has been elevated to a pedestal that it cannot fail?  So it is hailed as the Word of God and has every perfection known to men.  I mean, sometimes ago I even found this, someone is hailing the 'biblical diet' and promoting it as the healthy way to live.  Everything about it, is perfect, and even the ground they walked on.  This holy land phenomenon, and everyone, if they had money, would like to visit the holy ground that Jesus walked on,  


It makes little sense to me, that this holy diet is the way to go, if the Inuits adopt this diet, they will all die.  Literally, the Inuits are suppose to live in the land of ice and snow with tundra.  The cannot access the regular iron/rare vitamins, except if they drink blood and eat the innards of their games.  They usually leave the steaks to dogs,since there is no nutrients,  So, these Inuit are dying already since they left their ancient ways and try to live in the 21st century, things had to be flown in since they don't have access to grains/bread/modern diets.  So, they are having diabetes and other modern diseases, as soon as they adopt this way.  When I found out about this biblical nonsense, then, I realize, the bible was written by people who lived in that area, within a period of time.  They are limited to such time-space continuum.  They are not absolutes like we put them on a pedestal.  


I refuse to blindly read and give it a pass,.  I no longer do.  I read the portions that touch me, issues of emancipation, of love and mercy.  These prayer so profoundly touch me by the Psalmists.   I however, have learned to leave the infallibility issue behind.  Perhaps the closest I will come to, is that it contains the words of God, and if there is a God, his words must be everywhere, inhis works, his animals and his people.  That would be a universalized event.  It is not partial or limited to only a narrowly elf-appointed people and they do not alone have this grace.  They make mistakes like we do, their culture sink into their texts, their way of life, their cruelty, their insularity and their ways to treat women, children, infidels, atheists, and gays are permeating through their holy texts, ad by blindingly subscribing to these murderous thoughts, we have committed the unspeakable crime against humanity,

So may the modification of the words of Jesus:  Bible is written for man, not man for Bible, man is also Lord of the bible.

Friends of God

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